Mes taip norim, kad visi klubai A lygoje butu profesionalais, kad tie klubai to profesionalumo besiekdami ir pastimpa. Jei maziau reikalautume, ziurek, gal ir ilgiau gyventu kokie Mazeikiai ar Taurage. Gyvenimas rodo, kad estai pasirinko teisingesni kelia nei lietuviai ir latviai.
Idomios izvalgos, su dauguma visu jusu sutinku... Tik stai ka pastebejau del estu klubu, kad tie normatyvai (licencijavimas) praktiskai nevyksta ir tos pereinamosios varzybos is lygu i lygas visada turi prasme ir reiksme. O tie mazieji provinciju klubai, kaip Paide, Rakvere, Parnu, Viljandi, Kuressaare ir tas pats Tartu taip paprastai, kaip Lietuvoje, neisnyksta i nebuti (ka norejau pabrezti del klubu megejiskumo). Jei klubas mazas ir megejiskas, jis vietiniu megeju ir keliu profu deka patenka i auksciausia lyga, kur licencijavimo normatyvai yra zemi, ir net jei ten buna triuskinamas ir mindomas, isrenta ir toliau migruoja zemesniuose divizionuose. Bet nera isformuojamas (nors keletas pvz. yra).... Kai pas mus provinciju klubai megsta issokti ir subliuksti.
Tiktai priminsiu, kad LFF skelbti A Lygos skaičiai už 2016m. siekė €642tūkst., už 2017m. – €752tūkst.
Apie tai, kaip Kataras per 20 metų užsiaugino savo futbolą:
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He says that their budget consists mostly of player sales to European clubs (40 per cent), commercial (30 per cent) and stadium revenue (20 per cent) — “we create every penny we use.” Only €100,000 of that budget (less than 10 per cent) comes from television money.
“We do fitness testing for companies and different types of wellness programmes,” says Riihilahti. “Clubs shouldn’t just sell tickets and shirts but also services.
“The average salary for the main clubs in the league is something like €4,000 monthly gross. Tax is between 20 to 40 per cent. (Though) I pay 50 per cent. I have a good life and I think it’s fair to pay the taxes.”
He replies without much hesitation to the question of what he would most like to change about football. “Much better regulation on agents. How much they can take away from this industry, which is over £500 million yearly. Most of it is money out of football. Also, better protection of training clubs. If we invest in youth development and infrastructure, we should be rewarded for it.”
“The training and solidarity contribution, especially training compensation which helps protection of training clubs. It looks now that it will go a way that makes sense to invest in youth development, and this is a must for football. If we lose that then we give all the power to players and agents and then we are all lost.”
"We also lose our best younger players when they are 16. They will never see the first team. They are good enough to go. Whether it is best for their career… evidence suggests otherwise.
“It would make sense for them to develop a little bit longer in their natural environment. I don’t mean until they are 20 or 21 but I’m worried about the football world where kids leave when they are 16 and they do so only because the other team wants to hire them to become a homegrown player.”
One of the more relevant takeaways to the challenges football faces from a data perspective, however, was the sheer volume of data that Formula One teams are dealing with and how they turn it into actionable insights. Houston talked about how the 2019 Williams car had more than 350 sensors in it and how one car alone was generating over 17.5 billion data points per Grand Prix weekend.
To put that into context, some basic back-of-an-envelope maths says that the amount of data is equivalent to all of the events and player positions in nearly 12 full seasons of Premier League football.
“It’s ironic,” another Premier League lead analyst says, “the title of the role is performance analysis and yet currently, the analyst is not actually analysing performance. They’re collecting data.”
Sveiki! Antradienį buvau "Egzotiškų Lygų Žurnalo" svečias. Tai programa viename didžiausių Lenkijos futbolo projektų "Kanał sportowy" (lit. Sporto Kanalas). Kartu su Adomu Kotleška kalbėjau apie Lietuvos lygą. Filmas buvo papildytas angliškais subtitrais, todėl kviečiu žiūrėti!
PS. Mes taip pat kalbėjomės su gerai žinomais Lietuvoje Kamilu Bilinskiu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb2fTvI69xI
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Let's welcome another guest.
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Kamil Biliński, former player of Żalgiris Vilnius
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and top scorer of Lithuanian league.
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- Hello. - Hi.
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We're talking about Lithuania.
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It kind of turned out to be
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a talk about the absurds
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of their football. But you reminisce it
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very good and not only because of the success
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but you said it yourself that you met many great people there.
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That is true.
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During my time in Żalgiris
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the president and sporting director
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were two people. Vilma, who is still in charge there
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as the president
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and the sporting director was Mindaugas Nikoličius.
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They introduced a really family athmosphere there.
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In the club.
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They treated us kind of
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like we were their children.
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We were most important
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and you could feel that, everyone was smiling
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on every training and match.
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Even the camps were held
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in a really family climate.
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During that time
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you could really
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only work hard and be happy you can have around you
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people like them.
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What about the very beggining,
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how you ended up there. It's not an obvious direction
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for a Polish player.
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There were some but for you
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Lithuania weren't a dream,
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you didn't have a Żalgiris poster over your bed as a 13-year-old.
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How did it happen you signed in Żalgiris?
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- No, no posters. - I am shocked!
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I am not gonna lie.
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The situation was haywired.
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It started with
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me playing for Wisła Płock on a loan from Śląsk Wroclaw.
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We were playing in 1 Liga
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and I scored some goals there.
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We didn't manage to stay in the league
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and got relegated to 2 Liga.
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So I came back to Wroclaw following the end of the loan
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where the coach was Orest Lenczyk.
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He didn't have a place for me in the team he built
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and I had a complicated situation.
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I thought it's this kind of the "dog in the manger" situation.
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He didn't want to use me
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but didn't want to let me go. I had a lot of Ekstraklasa offers
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and I couldn't leave anywhere.
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I had two choices: stay in Śląsk reserves
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which were playing in the fourth division
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or I could extend my loan
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in third division Wisła Płock.
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Both options were bad for me, those playing levels were not good enough
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as I had offers from
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Ekstraklasa clubs and I believed I am good enough to play there.
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I wanted to play in Ekstraklasa.
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Unfortunately we couldn't get an agreement.
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This offer from Żalgiris was a godsend for me.
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I took the risk and I don't know how
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we managed to cut a deal with Żalgiris as there were
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various contract complexities.
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Śląsk wanted to ensure a release clause if I go anywhere else
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and there were many complicated situations.
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Somehow we managed to agree
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and I was happy to go to a club
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that is being re-built,
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has ambitious plans and will play in Europa League.
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This was a way to develop myself.
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Even though it was "only" Lithuania.
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Like we talked yesterday
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I transferred from Żalgiris
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to Dinamo Bucuresti.
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So you moved up not from Polish but from Lithuanian league.
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Exactly, so...
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this step in my adventure with football was maybe risky
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but to be honest this sped up
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my career and allowed me
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to touch some of the higher-level football.
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And live through many great moments.
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Lithuanian champion, Lithuanian cup winner,
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Supercup winner,
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Player of the year, twice,
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player of the year in Żalgiris...
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You raised to a level of a legend there.
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Do those successes allow you to feel like a star
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or the fact that football is not number one there
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didn't let you become a Lithuanian David Beckham. How was it?
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Not at all.
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We had a good team
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built by all the players
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and no one had the status of a star.
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I did what was expected of me.
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I was helping by scoring goals.
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The 1,5 years I spent there
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was very exciting for me
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and really effective.
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Goalscoring-wise
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and also because of the trophies.
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At that moment I didn't
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want to stay there longer as I have already won everything.
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In this country. So I wanted to leave
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even though they tried to convince me to stay
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and keep fighting
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for Champions League this time as we've been champions this time
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and play in Europe cups as a champion. Before we played
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as a runner-up
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In four rounds of Europa League.
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I didn't have the status of a star because as we all know
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basketball is the number one sport there.
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It's basketball players
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who are looked up to as an idols.
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We only kept doing our job
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and keep it on the down low.
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It's Romania where I could expierence this bigger status.
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Where players are sometimes treated
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like a "Gods" even.
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There's no such thing in Lithuania.
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Once you're here in Warsaw
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I would like to invite you to talk about Romania.
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But today we talk about Lithuania.
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How would you compare
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the football there and in Polish Ekstraklasa?
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We know Lithuania's league is worse.
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But Żalgiris was able to show that they don't fear Polish teams.
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How did the first weeks or months look like to you?
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When you saw their level
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did you think: Damn, where did I come,
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the level is weak here or the opposite? You knew you can develop there.
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I signed with a really good team,
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with very good players.
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They had good skill
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and we could do something about that.
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I wasn't shocked about
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where did I ended up,
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and what I am doing here or was it worth it.
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We really had a great team
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and played football well.
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Then later, after
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coach Marek Zub took over our team
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the team quality went even higher.
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Coach Marek really pulled everything from us.
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He activated our true skills.
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After that we created an even better team.
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The beggining were kind of
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a rollercoaster for me.
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I played my first game
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in the Europa League
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against Admira Wacker.
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In Vilnius we drew 1:1
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and I assisted with Radavicius' goal.
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I think I remember correctly.
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We could win that day.
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And then we played at home
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against Atlantas Kłajpeda
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who was really weak that season.
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There was a huge disparity
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between the skill there.
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So like I said, it was a rollercoaster.
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Soon we flew to Admira for a rematch
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and they'd beat us 5:1.
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We had no chance.
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Next there were matches
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in the league and we started
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to win it all.
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I think we had
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a winning spree of 13 or 14 matches then.
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We won them all.
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Until the end of the season.
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Even that didn't ensure the title for us. We were a point away
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from becoming the champion.
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We couldn't catch up with Ekranas who also won
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a lot of games.
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But we were the runner-up.
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And then the next season
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we were a favorite to win the league.
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We did it.
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We also won the cup and the supercup.
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And like I said before, matches in European games
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which we finished at 4th round in Salzburg.
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Was Żalgiris Vilnius a better team than Wisła Płock then?
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If we're talking about third division Wisła Płock
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and Żalgiris fighting
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in the European cups,
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then surely yes. Żalgiris was better.
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Compared to third division Wisła.
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How about the best team in Lithuania?
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From your time there.
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How would they perform in Poland? Would they fight for Europe
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or they would rather be fighting to avoid relegation?
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I think they would soon be facing relegation.
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I think even my team
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would not be able to fight for more than staying in the league.
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We would definately need
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wider rivarly in within the team.
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We had a good first 11
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plus 2-3 benchmen
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but the rest of the squad was not strong enough
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for us to fight every game.
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They were not good enough to provide good subs.
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For the Lithuanian league this was a strong team
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but in Ekstraklasa we would for sure be lacking
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wider squad.
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Who was the best player in Lithuania that you played with or against?
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Someone I played with...
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In my team I liked to play
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when Kuba Wilk signed with Żalgiris.
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Troops from Poland?
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Yeah, exactly.
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We understood each other without words
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even though we did not train together much.
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We friended quickly.
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Our families too.
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We are still close,
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we have good relations.
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We understood without words
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and you can even see that in the statistics.
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Kuba had good stats,
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had a lot of assists with this left foot of his.
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A lot.
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So I would really point to him.
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In my team, I would name him.
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About a player from other team...
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It was when we were playing in Europe.
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We had beaten 3 teams
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and in the 3rd round there was Lech Poznań.
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I can name a bunch of players from Lech
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that were really good.
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When we eliminated Lech
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we were paired with really strong
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RB Salzburg.
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At that time
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they had players like Jonathan Soriano,
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Allan, Sadio Mane
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or Kevin Kampl.
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Gulacsi was the goalkeeper.
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Player of RB Leipzig.
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Their whole squad
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did great things later
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They became great players.
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I talked to everyone
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and playing against others
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I have never seen anyone to play a match
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like Soriano played against us.
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We lost 5:0
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and didn't do a thing. We couldn't.
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They score five, but they could easily score 15 goals.
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It's not even about the level of the team.
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They were in amazing form.
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After eliminating us
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they were in group stage
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and I think they haven't lost a game there. They went really far then.
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Salbzurg was beating everyone that season.
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We couldn't do a thing. They came for a rematch
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and won 2:0 but it was a stroll.
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Jonathan Soriano was amazing in the game one.
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He scored three goals.
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He was playing. For me...
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I couldn't believe it. How can someone play like that?
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This was a nice experience.
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And then it was Sadio Mane who has the best career.
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But you played against him.
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Let's go back to the Lech game.
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You played them before Salzburg. How do you reminisce that?
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Did you teammates talk to you
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asked you if you want to show yourself?
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Maybe this rival was important to you
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because it's a team that maybe
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would want to sign you somewhere down the road?
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As for the plans for my future
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and the possibility of signing with Lech,
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no, I didn't think of this that way.
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I may have wanted to play good
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to show it to experts who follow Polish football.
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I wanted to prove
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that we are not that weak
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and we need to be respected and appreciated.
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The fact that a team is
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maybe from a smaller country
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doesn't mean they can't win
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and eliminate the bigger team.
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History showed us this more than once.
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Matches can be won
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by theoretically weaker teams.
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Sometimes it takes only standing your ground and fighting.
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And then you are a good rival. In our case
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we wanted to play good and represent us well.
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Prove to everyone that Żalgiris has some quality.
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And that we know how to play football.
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I also wanted to exhibit myself. And there was coach Zub
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and many of the Lithuanians dreamed of playing
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in Polish Ekstraklasa.
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Everything turned out well
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and we stayed united
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and searched ourselves for energy and motivation
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to eliminate Lech.
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And history showed
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that it was possible.
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We were very happy.
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You're slowly becoming an expert or just someone who knows a bit
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about eliminating Polish clubs from European cups.
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You also did that while playing for FC Riga.
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Yeah, that's true.
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What can you do? When we advanced to cup in Riga
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I already knew that we
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will be paired with a Polish team.
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When the draw was finished I only said: "Here we go".
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History has come full circle.
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And again we managed to eliminate the rival.
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I am happy that it worked out because for me it was a moment
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in which we weren't appreciated
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by football experts in Poland.
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That way we showed that
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we can play football. Though I think
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from a perspective, that Riga I played in
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was a better club than Żalgiris at that time.
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And if you had to compaare Latvian and Lithuanian leagues,
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which is better?
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I think Latvian at the moment.
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After all? But you mean overall?
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The whole league or the clubs you know?
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In think, in general, the whole league is better
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because of the money.
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More money is invested within the Latvian league.
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A lot of Russian pump money there
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into the Latvian football
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so this is different than in Lithuania.
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Even now you can see that on Lithuanian example.
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Only six teams play there now.
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And from that only two really matter.
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Suduva is a club that matters there
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and Żalgiris, and the rest will only try to
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win something but I don't think they will succeed.
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You can tell that Suduva is strong. The last three years proved
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that they can also function well in the European games.
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Sign good players too.
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Analizing the Suduva squad the last few years
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you can see there were a lot of interesting players
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who had quality and good resumee.
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One more question.
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When will Podbeskidzie play with Lithuanian or Latvian club?
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For now we fight for Ekstraklasa.
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This is our main goal now.
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Goal number one.
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We are treating this with humility, each game we fight
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for three points
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and hopefully we will advance
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to Ekstraklasa again and we can show off there.
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And who knows, maybe the following season
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we will play in Europe?
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Everything in it's own time.
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Right now we focus on the closest goal.
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But history like to come full circle.
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It would be great to relive those moments.
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OK, last question now.
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If you received an offer today
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from Żalgiris to come back
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and fight for championship, maybe cup games.
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Would you consider it or do you want to put roots here in Poland?
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- My contract is still valid here, so... - Yeah, but theoretically.
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I don't know if they would let me go.
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There were some...
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during last transfer window,
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some talks with Suduva or Żalgiris,
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There was something.
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I didn't really want to consider that.
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I already won everything there.
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And in that league. I wouldn't want to do a step back
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and try all that again.
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To win stuff.
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I think this would be
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not a first choice option for me.
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Last question. Sorry, I have to, they ask great questions.
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How are the wages in Lithuania?
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If a Polish player signs there,
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would he earn like in 1 Liga or maybe bottom of Ekstraklasa?
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When I left for Vilnius the first time
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it was the year 2013...
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Yes? Yes, 2013.
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2013?
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- You signed in 2012. - Yes, right. Season 2012/2013.
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The wages then weren't high.
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Żalgiris just started the re-building process.
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They wanted to create their brand.
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I know that
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after I left
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and played in Romania
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or back in Śląsk Wrocław,
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those wages were a lot higher then.
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This is why Żalgiris has
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those financial problems now.
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At some point they took it to far.
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That wasn't good for the club.
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I think now, again, the wages are not very high there.
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Suduva probably pays better.
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You can earn better money there.
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You could compare that
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of course I mean those two clubs,
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because the other club, I have no idea
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what kind of money they pay.
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Probably not a lot.
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But for those two top clubs,
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I think it's similar wages to
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middle-table Ekstraklasa club.
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Or maybe top club from 1 Liga.
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That's where I would put them.
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Somewhere there.
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I don't think it could be more.
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I think you can get 10 thousand in Suduva.
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10 thou a month? Well that a good wage then.
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Yeah, I think this is a wage
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that some of the players there might earn.
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You can see the squad,
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some of the guys are
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still there after 3 years for example, so they must be content with wages.
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And also about the success.
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Quality, infrastructure etc.
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Suduva has a good stadium and infrastructure.
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The facilities. Suduva has
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those thing on a really
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solid, acceptable level.
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Better than many Polish clubs.
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This is an asset. Some of the players
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see that and know that money must be good too.
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And because of that they don't see the need to change club.
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OK, we will sit here longer,
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because I have many good questions.
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Do you remember any crazy stories? Maybe some away game
64:14
with terrible pitch?
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We played a video that showed football in Lithuania
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has some specific angles.
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Do you remember something
64:26
that could only happen in Lithuania?
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Yes, I have something. At that time
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Tauras played in the top division.
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- Yes. - From Tauroge, right?
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Exactly.
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They had two stadiums, one with real grass
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and one artificial pitch.
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We played on both.
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The pitch with the real grass was...
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terrible. Like a village pitch.
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The grass didn't allow to play the usual game.
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But a league game is a league game.
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Another time we played on the artificial pitch.
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The pitch was... I don't know, maybe like in a regional league.
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There were two trailers,
65:24
without a shower even.
65:28
Just the pitch and a small stand.
65:34
Everything was surrounded by an agricultural field.
65:39
This was hilarious.
65:42
But it was a normal game we had to win to reach our goal.
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If that wasn't enough the rain was pouring.
65:52
The whole game took place during a storm.
65:56
Sounds hilarious but...
65:58
- I think we won 7:0. - So you somehow managed.
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Everyone wanted to get it done
66:07
and go back home.
66:10
And never come back here.
66:14
Beat them and let them relegate
66:17
so we never had to come back here.
66:20
This is how it looked like. We motivated like this.
66:24
What about playing in a hall? You must've played in one.
66:30
Yes.
66:32
It was during the supercup match.
66:35
In Mariampole.
66:37
We played in hall at home.
66:40
I can't remember the name...
66:45
- Nevermind. - But it's in Vilnius.
66:49
I can't remember the name,
66:53
there's no chance I can recall.
66:55
Żalgiris plays there.
66:58
The stands are new
67:00
and they built artificial pitch.
67:04
The conditions there must be better now
67:08
because the grass there was bad even though they changed it.
67:15
You can play there better now.
67:18
But this situation from Supercup...
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with Suduva was funny.
67:25
We played, the pitch was OK, they had the stands too
67:29
but the goals had those...
67:33
Just behind the post there was this metal bar.
67:38
- It was holding the goal. - Of course.
67:43
We are playing
67:44
and it's drawed in the regular time.
67:49
So we start extra time and I scored.
67:53
I scored a goal, the ball passed the line but...
67:57
it bounced off that bar.
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It was half a meter in but bounced out.
68:05
We are celebrating the goal,
68:08
the rivals are sad
68:10
and the referee whistles that there was no goal.
68:14
- He thought it hit the post? - Something like that.
68:18
But you could see the reactions
68:21
of us and the rivals and know
68:24
that the goal was correct. But he took it away.
68:28
And this referee is now
68:30
an international referee. Gediminas Mažejka?
68:33
- Yes. Gediminas Mažejka. - So I remembered him.
68:38
His name.
68:39
We were lucky to score another goal and won 1:0.
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We won the supercup but this was unreal.
68:51
You don't see this kind of goals now.
68:55
With a bar sticking out of the goal like that.
69:01
Especially with VAR now. It wasn't even planned then.
69:06
Yeah, but in regular games? Cup even?
69:08
I don't think you can find goals like that anywhere.
69:11
Maybe in some training grounds.
69:16
Then maybe OK but not during an official match.
69:20
With a cup underway.
69:23
This was a little hilarious.
69:26
Luckily we ended up winning
69:29
that match after all.
69:32
Kamil, thank you for this today's conversation.
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